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		<title>By: Decisions, decisions. : ManicMammy&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Decisions, decisions. : ManicMammy&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Diploma course to see whether or not I wanted to apply to do it. I really enjoyed completing the WSET advanced course and my wine knowledge increased immensely. But the diploma course is a massive jump in both money [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Diploma course to see whether or not I wanted to apply to do it. I really enjoyed completing the WSET advanced course and my wine knowledge increased immensely. But the diploma course is a massive jump in both money [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Manic Mammy</title>
		<link>http://www.manicmammy.com/2009/10/31/wine-wine-wine-and-some-spirits/comment-page-1/#comment-13858</link>
		<dc:creator>Manic Mammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kevin, I couldn&#039;t agree more.

I see no point in keeping courses and education limited to an elite group of people working in the wine trade. It just doesn&#039;t make sense. The more the merrier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kevin, I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>I see no point in keeping courses and education limited to an elite group of people working in the wine trade. It just doesn&#8217;t make sense. The more the merrier!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Ecock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Ecock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manic Mammy the swot!

Years ago when I suggested to the Wine Development Board that they give courses to consumers I was eaten alive. When I then suggested that consumers be invited onto the &#039;trade exam&#039; courses I was spat back out again as something that was more than a bit disagreeable.

All courses should be open to everyone. The big players in the Irish wine trade closed the WDB courses down simply because the finances of the WDB depended on attracting bums onto seats; and the trade wasn&#039;t providing enough bums. Let&#039;s hear it for the enthusiastic Irish wine consumer. First you weren&#039;t allowed into the WDB. Then you were keeping it open. Finally you ware all kicked out again!! Does the Irish wine trade have any idea what it&#039;s up to? Does it care?    

You &#039;loved learning&#039;. That&#039;s enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manic Mammy the swot!</p>
<p>Years ago when I suggested to the Wine Development Board that they give courses to consumers I was eaten alive. When I then suggested that consumers be invited onto the &#8216;trade exam&#8217; courses I was spat back out again as something that was more than a bit disagreeable.</p>
<p>All courses should be open to everyone. The big players in the Irish wine trade closed the WDB courses down simply because the finances of the WDB depended on attracting bums onto seats; and the trade wasn&#8217;t providing enough bums. Let&#8217;s hear it for the enthusiastic Irish wine consumer. First you weren&#8217;t allowed into the WDB. Then you were keeping it open. Finally you ware all kicked out again!! Does the Irish wine trade have any idea what it&#8217;s up to? Does it care?    </p>
<p>You &#8216;loved learning&#8217;. That&#8217;s enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Manic Mammy</title>
		<link>http://www.manicmammy.com/2009/10/31/wine-wine-wine-and-some-spirits/comment-page-1/#comment-13853</link>
		<dc:creator>Manic Mammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul, 
Glad to know it wasn&#039;t just me then regarding the tasting confusion. Guess we all need much more practice. Well thats my excuse for continued purchase and quaffing of wine. The WSET diploma appears to be a huge commitment in time and workload compared to the advanced course? Its a pity its not run in Cork as would think about doing it in the future. 

Yep Maurice, 
it was a great mix of people and good craic. A very enjoyable reason to escape for a few hours on a Tuesday. Enough of that guff, you know you were much better than me with the theory and tasting! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul,<br />
Glad to know it wasn&#8217;t just me then regarding the tasting confusion. Guess we all need much more practice. Well thats my excuse for continued purchase and quaffing of wine. The WSET diploma appears to be a huge commitment in time and workload compared to the advanced course? Its a pity its not run in Cork as would think about doing it in the future. </p>
<p>Yep Maurice,<br />
it was a great mix of people and good craic. A very enjoyable reason to escape for a few hours on a Tuesday. Enough of that guff, you know you were much better than me with the theory and tasting! <img src='http://www.manicmammy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maurice O Mahony</title>
		<link>http://www.manicmammy.com/2009/10/31/wine-wine-wine-and-some-spirits/comment-page-1/#comment-13850</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice O Mahony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Brought back great memories. I too found it excellent and very enjoyable. In fact, I miss not going on Tuesdays. The course was excellent (as was Gary O Donovan) and as you say, the people on the course were great. And you were the swot of the class ! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Brought back great memories. I too found it excellent and very enjoyable. In fact, I miss not going on Tuesdays. The course was excellent (as was Gary O Donovan) and as you say, the people on the course were great. And you were the swot of the class ! <img src='http://www.manicmammy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kiernan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kiernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is massive subjectivity in tasting alright, even with people supposedly singing from the same hymn sheet (i.e. the SAT card). When we taste a wine blind in Dip classes, almost every well-known grape will be mentioned at least once by students when we are predicting what that mystery wine is! Huge variation.

I think non-trade people should be welcomed into the WSET courses too. As if organisations can turn away money these days! And, as you correctly said, educated consumers are far more likely to buy more expensive wines. Or, to put it another way, someone who knows zero about wine will see no reason to spend above a very low amount on a bottle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is massive subjectivity in tasting alright, even with people supposedly singing from the same hymn sheet (i.e. the SAT card). When we taste a wine blind in Dip classes, almost every well-known grape will be mentioned at least once by students when we are predicting what that mystery wine is! Huge variation.</p>
<p>I think non-trade people should be welcomed into the WSET courses too. As if organisations can turn away money these days! And, as you correctly said, educated consumers are far more likely to buy more expensive wines. Or, to put it another way, someone who knows zero about wine will see no reason to spend above a very low amount on a bottle.</p>
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